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Category:Sounds by country[edit]

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(Moved from an other page and from Category talk:Sound by country. --ŠJů (talk) 21:01, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CommonsDelinker request: Sounds/Sound

Rename Category:Sounds of Austria to Category:Sound from Austria (0 entries moved, 0 to go) Warning: Please add a reason. Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username.
Rename Category:Sounds of Cape Verde to Category:Sound from Cape Verde (0 entries moved, 0 to go) Warning: Please add a reason. Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username.
Rename Category:Sounds of France to Category:Sound from France (0 entries moved, 9 to go) Warning: Please add a reason. Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username.
Rename Category:Sounds of Germany to Category:Sound from Germany (0 entries moved, 0 to go) Warning: Please add a reason. Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username.
Rename Category:Sounds of Italy to Category:Sound from Italy (0 entries moved, 0 to go) Warning: Please add a reason. Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username.
Rename Category:Sounds of Japan to Category:Sound from Japan (0 entries moved, 21 to go) Warning: Please add a reason. Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username.

Regarding your request to move category "Sounds of Japan" to "Sound from Japan" etc. on User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands - This is not an uncontroversial move as in my eyes, you're going from plural to singular & that's against what the norm would be on Commons. Can you open a {{move}} request for that please? I don't think it'll get processed at all otherwise. Thanks. -- Deadstar (msg) 13:39, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, discussion is possible, but unification is necessary. I'm transfering to Category talk:Sound by country Mircea (talk) 14:36, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think it should be moved the other way - ie from Category:Sound by country to Category:Sounds by country as they are different types of sound. The second category already exists, so this is more of a merge than a move request in that case. -- Deadstar (msg) 15:10, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's complication, because Category:Sounds by country is category about geographical objects "" now. Mircea (talk) 15:15, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Haha - didn't even see that! OK, now that is a complication. So, there is Category:Sound from the United States, probably to distinguish it from Category:Sounds of the United States. To me, it feels wrong to go from the plural to the singular, but to have the distinction made by "of/from" is also confusing (ie to have Category:Sounds from the United States). More ideas are needed. -- Deadstar (msg) 15:21, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Or maybe we should just go with your initial request (I just needed it explained to me - it definitely makes more sense in the context of Category:Sound) -- Deadstar (msg) 15:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The Category:Sound by country is comparable with Category:Videos by country. But therefore that there is no confusion with Category:Sounds by country (geography), it is better to work with Category:Audio files by country. --R. Engelhardt (talk) 21:41, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Something without discussion and something is for discussion:
Sound[s] (Audio files) from "country"
  • without discussion: Audio files from - little "f" in word "files" and "from" instead of "of"
  • for discussion: pluralxsingular for Sound[s] (audio)
it's not complete... Mircea (talk) 23:06, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

[reset identation] Are you saying that you propose something like "Sound (Audio files) from Country X"? I believe the "Sound" part could be left aside and then we wouldn't have to deal with the singular/plural issue. So, I think the best would be "Audio files from Country X" (which seems to be the dominating option right now). --Waldir talk 23:30, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, something along the lines of Audio by country would be unambiguous. Man vyi (talk) 07:24, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also happy with that. Please also have a look at Category:Audio files by country: I think we need a clear description of what the difference would be between Category:Audio by country and Category:Audio files by country. -- Deadstar (msg) 11:13, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Difference? I thought he proposed the usage of "Audio by country" instead of "Audio files by country". Please correct me if I'm wrong. --Waldir talk 12:55, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I thought he meant to say to move "Sounds by country" to something like "Audio by country". Anyway - my point was that the category Category:Sounds of Japan was defined that it should have the sounds of the country (a tram rattling by, vendors on the corner, temple bells etc.) and I think that "Audio files by country" is more about music/book readings/radio recordings etc. from a specific country? If we merge the two, that distinction will be lost. -- Deadstar (msg) 15:31, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, since the Sound categories are problematic, it looks like Audio is a workable solution. So should we have Audio of Japan/Audio files of Japan in Audio by country/Audio files by country? And Audio by language/Audio files by language? If we had an overarching Audio by country then a seemingly inevitable Recording studios by country would presumably also fit in there? And from a multilingual point of view Audio by country is simpler for those less comfortable with English language than Audio files..., I'd have said. Man vyi (talk) 19:48, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

<undent>As all uploads are obviously "files", is there a way to eliminate that from the naming?

Please also note that I've just looked at the files in the categories, I haven't listened to them & it could be some work to straighten them into a new structure. -- Deadstar (msg) 11:08, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Closed, used for sound beaches/coasts/landofrms now. --Foroa (talk) 12:12, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]