Commons:Deletion requests/File:Emblem of France consulate.jpg

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This image features an architectural or artistic work, photographed from a public space in France. Consuls and embassies are considered to be "France". There are no Freedom of Panorama exemptions in France, which means that they cannot be photographed freely for anything other than personal purposes. However, French jurisprudence states that no infringement is constituted when the work is an "accessory compared to the main represented or handled subject". Grcampbell (talk) 00:10, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If this is a French consulate, it was definitely not taken in France, and their law would not apply to the photo. We would use the law where the consulate was located (there is a current Village Pump discussion on this, and that is what we have done in the past). The photo was likely taken from outside the embassy anyways. Not entirely sure where the photo was taken but it may have been the UK (or somewhere with similar FOP laws, like Jersey) based on who uploaded it. Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I think. Carl Lindberg (talk) 13:35, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just to confirm that I took the photo from a position standing outside Hauteville House, the Victor Hugo house-museum and honorary consulate in Saint Peter Port, capital of Guernsey (a jurisdiction with FOP). Man vyi (talk) 05:42, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I agree with Carl Lindberg. I note that the en.wp article Diplomatic mission states as follows:

    Contrary to popular belief, diplomatic missions do not enjoy full extraterritorial status and are not sovereign territory of the represented state. Rather, the premises of diplomatic missions remain under the jurisdiction of the host state while being afforded special privileges (such as immunity from most local laws) by the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations. Diplomats themselves still retain full diplomatic immunity, and (as an adherent to the Vienna Convention) the host country may not enter the premises of the mission without permission of the represented country. The term "extraterritoriality," therefore, is often used in this broader sense when applied to diplomatic missions.

    The fact that there is no FoP in France is irrelevant to a photo taken outside a French consulate outside France.--Skeezix1000 (talk) 14:14, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment The photo appears to have been taken in Guernsey as it is used in this article on en.wp.--Skeezix1000 (talk) 14:17, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I think that this emblem is an emblem from the French revolution time. So very old one --Tangopaso (talk) 20:00, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw nom per [User:Clindberg|Carl Lindberg]] . --Grcampbell (talk) 06:26, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: as per above. Yann (talk) 14:36, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]